Oval Office

5:05 P.M. EDT

PRESIDENT BIDEN:  Well, it’s a pleasure to welcome to the White House, the Oval Office, Prime Minister Johnson.  I’m honored to have a chance to have him here. 

He returned a small amount of hospitality compared to all the hospitality he provided for the G7 and our families and — in Cornwall.  And since then, our countries have worked in close cooperation on a whole range of things, and our fellow democracies. 

We continue to work on — we’re going to talk about today — the ambitions we laid out at the G7.  And we’re turning to our revitalized Atlantic Charter.  We’re going to make it something — we’re going to turn it into real action so it makes a ma- — plays a major role in the challenges we face. 

Earlier today, I addressed the United Nations General Assembly, and I made clear that climate has to be the core area of action for all of us and — as we look ahead to the UK-hosted COP26, which I’m really anxious to attend in Glasgow in November, Mr. Prime Minister.


PRESIDENT BIDEN:  And we’re promoting our —

PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON:  We need you there.  Yeah.

PRESIDENT BIDEN:  Oh, we’re going to be there.


PRESIDENT BIDEN:  With bells on, as they say.

And we’re going to also — our economies have to work together, including through our Build Back Better World initiative that we — that we launched in Car- — at Carbis Bay. 

And today, we’re going to discuss the next steps in all — on all of this, and as well as how the U.S. and UK can continue our cooperation in Afghanistan, in the Indo-Pacific, and around the world. 

And I want to thank you again, Boris, for making the effort to be here. 

And I understand, Boris — I just want you to know, Boris — you came down on Amtrak, is that right?

PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON:  I did.  And — and you’re — you’re a living deity —


PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON:  — on Amtrak, I can tell you.

PRESIDENT BIDEN:  I’ve traveled millions of miles.  You think I’m joking.


PRESIDENT BIDEN:  Well, they should.  (Laughter.)  I traveled more on Amtrak than any — if I were a conductor, I’d be number one in seniority.  (Laughter.) 

I got to tell you a quick story that has nothing to do with anything.  When I was Vice President, the Secret Service didn’t like me traveling on Amtrak because there were too many options for people to cause trouble along the way.  But I insisted I do it. 

And one day, they put in the newspaper: “Biden travels one million…” — and I think — don’t hold me to the exact number — I think it was — “…three hundred and fifty thousand miles on Air Force Two.”

And — and so I was walking up to the – up to — getting the train on that Friday.  And a guy, who was the number three guy from New Jersey in seniority as a conductor, walked up and grabbed me and he goes like this: “Joey, baby!” — grabs my cheek.  I thought the Secret Service was going to shoot him.  (Laughter.)  And I said, “No, no.  He’s a friend.”

He said, “Joey, big deal.  1,300,000 miles on Amtrak” — I mean, on Air Force Two.  “Do you know how many miles you traveled on Amtrak?”  And I said, No.”  He said, “Well, at the retirement dinner, we worked it out.”  He said, “Thirty-six years in the Senate; ‘X’ number of years as…” — at that point — “…as Vice President; average 131 days a year, 257 miles a day.  Joey, you travelled over 2 million miles.  Big deal.”  (Laughter.) 

I thought they should name the railroad after me or something.  But at any rate —

PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON:  They named the station after you. 

PRESIDENT BIDEN:  Yeah, they did do that.

PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON:  Yeah, yeah, yeah — it’s big news there.


PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON:  Joe, I want to thank you.  And I share your — your belief in transport infrastructure, particularly trains. 

I want to thank you very much for the warm welcome today.  And it’s great to be with you in the White House.  And this is a very important trip for us in the UK, and we’ve seen some great progress just in the last period. 

And it’s great that the ban is being lifted on British beef and the people of the United states of America can eat British beef.

PRESIDENT BIDEN:  And we’re going to be working on lamb, too.

PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON:  And the lamb.  We’re working on the — we’re working on the lamb. 

But what you did with the travel so that people can travel to the U.S. with two jabs is also fantastic and very welcome.  We’ve been working on that for a long time.

But I think the most important thing today has been your speech, Joe, to UNGA, where you made a commitment to supporting the world to adapt to climate change, doubling the American commitment.  That’s very important for us. 

And we’ve made a £11.6 billion commitment I made when I first became prime minister.  But it’s fantastic to see the United States really stepping up and showing a lead — a real, real lead.

And then, of course, there’s the progress that we’re making in the defense technology partnership that you’ve led and — with our Australian friends that I think has great potential to benefit the whole of the world and the security of the whole of the world. 

So, Joe, thank you for having us.  And I think, you know, we’re — we’re boosting our shared agenda.  We want to build back the world together with you.  And I think we want to renew and strengthen our transatlantic bond.  And it feels to me like it’s going very, very well.

But I think — would it be okay if we just have a couple of questions?  Just a — just a couple of questions for the —


PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON:  And I think we’re going to be ruthless.  (Laughter.)  We’re going to be ruthless.  I’m going to go to — I’m going to go to Harry Cole from The Sun.

Q    Mr. President —

PRESIDENT BIDEN:  Hey, he — ask him the question.  (Laughter.)  No, I’m jo-


Q    Mr. President, is Britain still at the back of the queue for a trade deal — a free trade deal, as your predecessor, President Obama, promised? 

PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON:  Well, it’s actually (inaudible) a nice question.

Q    And may I just ask, what possible justification is there for Anne Sacoolas not to be extradited to the United Kingdom to face justice over the death of Harry Dunn?

PRESIDENT BIDEN:  Two things: One, that latter case is being worked on.  I was under the impression — but I don’t know this, I want to be clear — I was under the impression there had been a civil settlement reached, but I don’t know that.

PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON:  That’s correct.  That’s correct.

PRESIDENT BIDEN:  And based on what I’ve been told, it was — it was not an intentional act.  It was someone who was new to “driving on the side of the road,” quote, unquote.

And — but we’re following — I’ll follow up on that.  I expressed my sympathies when it occurred, but I don’t know the status of that case right now.

The other question was?

Q    A Brexit free trade deal with Britain.  Is it —

PRESIDENT BIDEN:  A Brexit free trade — well, we’re going to talk about trade a little bit today, and we’re going to have to work that through.

PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON:  Let me just say, on that, Harry — I mean, don’t forget, folks, that we’ve — we’ve settled the Boeing Airbus thing, which was a massive problem between us.  So we’re making a lot of progress — to say nothing of the beef and the whiskey, which I already — I already mentioned.

And just to kind of say on —

PRESIDENT BIDEN:  You smiled when you said “the whiskey.”  (Laughter.)

PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON:  Well, he’s a — he’s a grade-A ambassador for them.

On the Harry Dunn case, which is a very, very sad — very sad case, and everybody’s sympathies are with the family of Harry Dunn, I know that the President has been personally trying to move things along, and I’m grateful for that.

We’re going to take — we’re going to take one more question.  I’m going to go to Beth.

Q    Thank you.  President Biden, President Trump said that the UK was in front of the queue when it came to a trade deal.  You seem to have a different approach.  Is that because of your heritage, your concern about the Irish Protocol?  Is that what’s holding it back when it comes to doing this deal with the UK?

PRESIDENT BIDEN:  They’re two separate issues.  On the deal with the UK, that’s continuing to be discussed.  But on the protocols, I feel very strongly about those.

We spent an enormous amount of time and effort in the United States.  It was a major bipartisan effort made.  And I — I would not at all like to see — nor, I might add, would many of my Republican colleagues like to see — a change in the Irish courts that — the end result having a closed border again.

PRIME MINISTER JOHNSON:  That is absolutely right.  And I — on that point, Joe, you know, we are — we are completely at one.  And I think nobody wants to see anything that interrupts or unbalances the Belfast Good Friday Accord — that’s the Belfast Good Friday Agreement.

Q    What’s your response to the situation on the border, Mr. President?

PRESIDENT BIDEN:  (Inaudible.)  Violence is not justified.

5:15 P.M. EDT

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